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By now you've probably read our PS3 PES 2008 review, in which we slammed the game for its frame rate and slowdown problems. And you've no doubt headed straight to the bottom of this page to see if we've given the Xbox 360 game a higher score. So what do you think? Surprised? Don't be. PES 2008 on the 360 is better than on PS3.
We take no pleasure in this dire situation. In an ideal world, we should be praising both games for their HD sheen, next-generation graphics and extensive online-enabled features. Unfortunately PES 2008 on both systems fails to excel in any of those categories. But at least you can play a smooth-running game of football on the 360.
To be fair, the first thing we did when the PES 2008 on 360 arrived in Pro-G HQ was play a two-player game under the exact same conditions as we did with the PS3 game. So we set up exhibition match between Newcastle and Barcelona at the game's second stadium, the Estadio Da Luzii, with the weather set to rain and the camera fixed in the wide view. Remember, this is in 720p, using a HDMI cable on a 55 inch Sony Bravia TV. The game ran like a freshly picked peach. While we did notice the occasional bit of slowdown it wasn't nearly enough to affect gameplay. We did notice some anisotropic filtering (where a line appears that divides texture quality) but this is only barely visible when the ball moves quickly and over a long distance. Verdict? When the ball is in play the game runs absolutely fine. No need to stick to certain stadiums, turn off the stadium effects or change the camera view - every game we played was smooth enough not to get in the way of the footballing fun.
That's not to say the 360 version is perfect. Like on the PS3, goal replays and entrance scenes are a frame rate purist's worst nightmare. While the crowd fares a little better than the PS3 game, it still looks absurd for a game on a next-gen console. And the player faces are still as hit and miss as ever. On the one hand you have an almost photo-realistic Didier Drogba and Robbie Keane and on the other you have a bemusing likeness of Frank Lampard and Dimitar Berbatov. And just like in the PS3 version, the 360 game's graphics are distinctly average. In a wide view (the view any serious PES player plays in) the game looks poor compared with the same view in FIFA 08. Perversely however, where FIFA's graphics get worse during player close-ups, PES 2008 gets better. Player animations are again superb, with nice additions like players waggling their fingers, throwing their fists about and holding their hands up while challenging an opposing player. Shooting, passing and tackling animations are, as is expected with PES, flawless. But you just can't get away from the feeling that the game looks like last-gen PES with a HD lick of paint.
The best football game engine the world has ever seen has undergone a few, subtle tweaks, but nothing has been implemented that will fundamentally change the way you play the game.
PES 2008 feels like the beautiful, classic PES we've all grown to love over the years. The best football game engine the world has ever seen has undergone a few, subtle tweaks, but nothing has been implemented that will fundamentally change the way you play the game. PES fans will instantly feel at home and it'll not take you more than half-an-hour before you're spraying cross-field passes and splitting the opposition's defence in two with killer lofted through balls like a Brazilian master. We've heard a lot about the new Teamvision system, a sophisticated AI that adapts to how you play to stop you running riot. Well we didn't notice the computer adapting to our play style. On the hardest difficulty level, the game is very hard, as you'd expect. But my tried and trusted tactic of playing long balls out to wingers who then cut inside for cool finishes seems to work just as well as it always did. An over-hyped learning AI notwithstanding, it's a definite improvement on last year's disappointing Pro Evolution Soccer 6, that's for sure.
It's harder to tackle. Pressing the dribbler with A gives away fouls more often, and slide tackles need to be absolutely spot on, or you'll get a red card from the totalitarian refs. Players keep hold of the ball much easier, and feel like they carry more weight. It's much easier to go past players now and you can get away from defenders once you've done them like a kipper much easier too. Unlike in the last game, fast players are actually fast. Chelsea's Andrei Shevchenko has super pace, unlike in real life, and is really useful for bursting into the penalty area. Pace is now a much bigger advantage than it was before. In PES 6 players moaned about how overpowered Brazilian and Inter striker Adriano was. Well, in PES 2008 anyone who's half decent is just as lethal.
The engine has also been changed so that the camera view doesn't always change when the ref is giving out a card, or you get fouled and take a quick free kick. This is a lovely touch that ads to the pace and flow of an average match, but one thing that does annoy, however, is having to wait for the ref's whistle before taking free-kicks. It causes unnatural and annoying stops in play, and seems absurd considering the tweaks Konami has implemented to help the game flow.
The keepers have been altered too. In the last game, lots of goals were scored because keepers parried shots into the paths of onrushing attackers, something that drew a lot of complaints from PES's vocal fanbase. It was as if every keeper suffered from a dose of Paul Robinson syndrome. While you'll still be able to score goals in this way, it happens less. Keepers are better shot stoppers too, but will flap a bit on crosses. Keepers in PES 2008 are more Jose Reina than Petr Cech. We have to say it's an improvement.
The commentary is hugely improved. In fact, it's the best ever in a PES game. We've now got John Champion and Mark Lawrenson casting their critical eye on proceedings. Love them or hate them, the commentary is well up with play, with Champion doing a great job of sounding genuinely excited if there's a chance. There's also some insight into the teams, which, while irrelevant, help ad authenticity to the action. Champion will mention that the team has moaned to the press about having two training sessions a day in the build up to the game. Pointless, but nice. I've always turned the commentary off in every PES game I've played, until now.
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Clance wrote at 13:09 on 26 October 2007
Commentary
Could this be the reason for slowdown? I always thought PES sacrificed commentary for amazing gameplay - which is why it felt smoother than FIFA.
But it was nice to hear John Champion make a mess of himself (spilling his tea) when i ran the length of the wing and cut in for a screamer that the keeper saved. "Here's a chaaa-AAAAAANCE!!". Who with? Gael Clichy, of course.
jue wrote at 13:21 on 26 October 2007
moneyhatted review?
sounds like it was written by a xbot or you got payed to say it's the better version
it's mostly a copy/paste of the ps3 review and the "quick points" dont make any sense with the review itself
Putty Man wrote at 15:37 on 26 October 2007
Good idea to post 2 seperate reviews guys. Pity about the PS3 version tho, hopefully the upcoming patch will sort it out.
J.m wrote at 17:28 on 26 October 2007
sounds like PS3 fanboys getting hot under the collar.. theyre both tested under same circumstances.. im guessing that blue ray and more power means nothing unless u get ur own games to work lmao
bob wrote at 02:22 on 27 October 2007
this game rules!!!!! wooooo!
sumo wrote at 20:42 on 27 October 2007
Well i was a big fan of Pes but this years edition is no improvement from pes 07 which i played on the ps2, i never thought id say that but Fifa this year is the real simulation, Konami is way too conservative about fixing their game, every year same ol same ol. After reading the review i thought youd give it a 6/7 instead of a 9 (???), how can you rate 9 a game with same gameplay, ( its even more arcadey actually), same bad graphics, same modes and all?It sounds very biased to me.
HorsePlay wrote at 00:39 on 28 October 2007
it fifa yh sure u got all the kits and the graphics r better but pes the gameplay and mutiplayer r great and u can't beat that in a football game. Your love fifa 4 a little bit and then ur get bored and probably trade it bk in like i did (4 days after gettin) but pes last yr i played that game nearly everyday 2 player with my m8s.
Dee wrote at 10:34 on 28 October 2007
Diving question....!?
...I got PES 2008 for the 360 & it's a vast improvement on laat years poor attempt!
My only question is do the dives ever work!? Altho it is cheating etc etc etc etc etc blah blah blah its a gr8 new addition in my opinion! Just adds sumthing new to the game! Anyways I just want this clarified by any1 that knows!!
Cheers Pro-g!!!
D
bert :-) wrote at 15:26 on 29 October 2007
pes08
wel i first played pes08 on live marketplace 4 the 360 it looked class graphics i fink r good gameplay good EVERYTHINKS good about it but 1 thing im really anoyed at is, i pre ordered the dam game on a site called www.cd-wow.com it said i will get it 1-2 days i forght gr8 bt monday is here still no game i have emailed them saying where is my game they havnt even sent it yet!! i am going crazy i have looked at all the sites about pro evo n watched all the videos !!! just warning every1 dnt buy of cd-wow.com !!!!
shadowfighter wrote at 18:53 on 29 October 2007
PES ON XBOX LIVE
i am one of the biggest pro evo fan in the world... i started from 'ISS Football' threw to pes 2008. but now......i cant get on live in a ranked match...it match makes for about 5mins then says no games found...i am fine to play a unranked match but the lag is terrible...its actually unplayable... i even got a friend to play with me we both have 8meg broadband we both had a direct connection and both had PCs turned off and still......can someone please tell me if they are experiencing the same problem
lennyman wrote at 11:47 on 31 October 2007
That's far and away the best PES2008 review I have read. What a fantastic but ultimately infuriating game it is. I'll still be playing it next year on the X360 but please, please sort out the issues mentioned for PES 2009.
Borgen wrote at 15:49 on 31 October 2007
Diving
Imagine this: You are having a gaming night with your mates, it's overtime, the score is 2-2 and you are inside the box. One of your mates comes in to stop you, and just as he's touching you and you know he'll get the ball, you dive... The referee blows his whistle and all of you're mates hold their breath for a split second... PENALTY! A burst of anger from your oppionent sends a smile upon your face... You score, the match is over, and you'll have a long, heated discussion, just like in real life!
Needless to say, I think the diving option is a cool new feature to a superb game series!
Serious gamers play PES, kids play FIFA... :-P
king-bert wrote at 11:22 on 01 November 2007
diving
how do you dive on the 360 ??
jtorry wrote at 11:24 on 01 November 2007
Lb, Lt & Rb.
Ell wrote at 16:27 on 01 November 2007
Pro 6 on the 360 was slow & sh*t compared to the PS2 version but pro 2008 on the 360 blows away all competition! It aint all about PS3 on this one.
hnic2000 wrote at 16:55 on 01 November 2007
mr
Love the new game but what the f%$k have they done to the Xbox live mode. Ive seen everything from players teleporting around the pitch (always the opposition) to my keeper making a save and the ball mystically appearing in the back of the net. Not to mention the time it takes to find a match, I had no such problems on pro 6.
Syk wrote at 11:14 on 03 November 2007
Inconsistent muchly?
I'd like to know how the author justifies placing a 9 next to the gameplay score card there, a 6 next to sound and comes up with a 9 overall? Was this scored and written by two completely different people, because the dichotomy between the score and the impression from the review is astounding. If I was someone basing my purchasing decision over the score you have granted this, and failed to read your review, I would be completely mislead.
Please consider your audience when putting together nonsense like that. So for next time please, at least try and mask your interest/bias somewhat, so it at least comes off as credible.
Anonymous wrote at 13:10 on 05 November 2007
Anyone else notice that the edit mode is still worse on the 360 version of this game.
You cant scroll through the preset player faces like in the old versions.
am i correct?
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